Side Affects Podcast – Provoking People to Think Differently

Join CEO Scott McGohan and Shareholder Anne Marie Singleton for "Side Affects: Disrupting Health Care." This MB podcast will provoke you, as an employer, to think differently. Scott and Anne Marie share strategies with the power to transform your workforce. They explore the role of leadership and culture to pave the way to better health and productivity. What's the secret? People; always has been and always will be! Health care is about people, leadership is about people, products are developed for and by people.   Email your questions to or

  • Episode 039 | Giving Back

    If you think your organization can’t afford to give back, think again. Scott and Anne Marie show how time and money spent on charitable pursuits is good for employers, employees … and it’s good for business.

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    Episode 38 | Value-Based Health Care

    Pay-for-value is elevating the importance of primary care physicians and having on impact on claims reduction. Scott and Anne Marie tell why you should care about this innovative reimbursement model, how it works and what it means for the future of health care.In this episode, Scott McGohan mentions a helpful… [more]

    Episode 37 | Performance | Improvement

    Scott McGohan sits down with Greg Harmeyer, CEO and founding partner of Tier1 Performance Solutions in Cincinnati. Tier1’s purpose is simple: To help employers get the best from each employee. 

    Greg takes Scott through the steps of delivering a consistent compelling message throughout the layers of your organization. 

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    Side Affects | Episode 36 | The Problem with PBMs

    This week on Side Affects, Scott and Anne Marie welcomed Antonio Ciaccia of the Ohio Pharmacists Association, a trade group that represents pharmacy professionals to the show. 

    Ciaccia says pharmaceutical companies take a lot of heat for rising drug prices. But most people aren’t aware that middlemen within the pharmacy supply… [more]

    Episode 35 | Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation

    We focus a lot on health management from the employer’s point of view. Today on Side Affects, special guest Samantha Redden talks with Scott about her experience with diabetes and her role at JDRF, including some of the promising management devices that are now in the clinical trial stage.

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    Side Affects | Episode 34: Understanding Risk and Self-Funding

    This weeks Side Affects podcast featured our company CEO, Scott McGohan and Director of Business Development, Anne Marei Singleton. 

    The two looked into a self-funding and whether stop-loss is the solution.

    More employers are turning to self-funding as a way to generate savings from their health benefits. And in the long run,… [more]

    Side Affects | Episode 33: The GOP Health Care Proposal

    The Republican answer to repeal-and-replace addresses some of the failings of the Affordable Care Act. But will the solutions just create another set of problems? ERISA attorney Paul Routh joins Scott and Anne Marie to examine some of the changes in the proposed legislation, including the elimination of the employer… [more]

    Episode 32 | Is a captive right for you?

    SThe right funding option offers protection from financial risk at the right cost to employers. For smaller groups, that might be fully funded. Large companies benefit from self funding. But there’s an option for mid-sized groups that balances the potential savings of self funding with the protection of full funding… [more]

    Episode 31 | ActionMasters Professional Development

    Scott and Anne Marie welcome Betsy Westhafer, a performance coach and founder of ActionMasters Network. She’s worked with a lot of different leadership styles, but finds one trait stands out among the most successful leaders:  They don’t want to be the smartest person in the room. They hire for outcomes… [more]

    Episode 30: Improve with Improv!

    In the last episode, Scott and Anne Marie talked about the importance of soft skills. This time,  Justin Howard from Black Box Improv talks about how to train your brain be a good listener. Too often, we’re so concerned about what we’re going to say that we don’t really hear… [more]

    Episode 29 | Soft Skills Beat Hard Sell

    Technical skills might open doors but soft skills will maintain relationships. Scott and Anne Marie talk about the value of soft skills — listening,  responding and recognizing nonverbal queues. Poor soft skills drive away customers and clients, while good skills pull them in. And soft skills, like technical skills, can… [more]

    Episode 028 | The Value of Vision Coverage

    Vision Coverage is often an afterthought, but it’s the most requested voluntary benefit among employees. Scott and Anne Marie explain how vision coverage is an inexpensive way to boost the value of your benefits package. And it’s not just about eyeglasses; regular eye exams can provide early detection to underlying… [more]

    Episode 27 | The Next Generation

    Generation Dayton is an organization for professionals under 40 in the Dayton region. Michael Allen and Melissa Carr sit down with Scott and Anne Marie to discuss how Gen D develops the next generation of community and business leaders. Employers, take note: What do young people value most from their… [more]

    Episode 26 | “Hood Robin” and Prescription Drug Pricing

    Recent price hikes for life-saving drugs prompt this discussion on prescription pricing. Scott says it’s like Robin Hood in reverse — the real payers of prescriptions are propping up a dysfunctional system. Scott and Anne Marie say the lack of transparency masks the dollars that are being exchanged under the… [more]

    Episode 25 | EAP: Because Stress Doesn’t Take a Holiday

    When employees are under a lot of stress, at work or at home, their well-being and performance suffers. An Employee Assistance Program, or EAP, is an often under-utilized resource that offers free confidential, professional counseling. The problem is, not many people know about it. Scott and Anne Marie talk about… [more]

    Episode 24: The Evolution of Wellness: Past, Present and Future

    Alexandra Paul, National Wellness Executive for Humana Health Care, says the focus of wellness has evolved from awareness to activities to outcomes. And thanks to wearable technology and data collection, the future holds the promise of earlier and improved disease detection. The key to this transformative possibility: Company culture. Join… [more]

    Episode 23 | A Podcast About... Podcasts

    Our Side Affects podcast was conceived to provoke you to think differently about your benefits plan. This time, we want you to think differently about podcasts! Scott and Anne Marie share how 20 minutes of unscripted conversation is an easy, inexpensive and effective way to transfer knowledge and share useful… [more]

    Episode 22 | The Case for Long-term Disability Insurance

    The chances of an employee needing long-term disability are greater than many employers might realize. Ninety percent of disabilities are due to common medical conditions, not catastrophic events. Long-term disability is an inexpensive way to protect your employee’s income in the event of an extended illness or injury. Scott and… [more]

    Episode 021 | Social Media and Human Resources

    Episode 021 | Your future workforce is well versed in communication technology. Are you? Scott and Anne Marie look at how social media and wearable technology are impacting human resources. The playing field is crowded, so how do you choose the ones that will have the most impact? The key… [more]

    Episode 020 | Airrosti: An Effective Alternative to Costly MSK Surgery

    Derek Curlee of Airrosti Rehab Centers joins Scott and Anne Marie to discuss musculoskeletal issues — things like back, shoulder and knee pain. Data shows these are among the costliest claims, racking up big numbers for pain meds, radiology and surgeries. Derek’s approach, initially used to get professional athletes better… [more]

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