Side Affects Podcast

Provoking People to Think Differently

At McGohan Brabender, we know the importance of staying on top of the latest industry trends and keeping your workforce informed. That’s why we created our podcast, Side Affects, to help take the complexity out of healthcare.  

Whether you are new to insurance or a seasoned executive, our podcast provides expert advice and innovative ideas about leadership, legislation, culture, compliance, and other topics. When you tune in to Side Affects, you’ll access exclusive insights from industry experts who share their knowledge and experiences. Our hosts, along with our guests, provide practical advice and proven strategies to help you improve your services in a crowded market. 

Our podcast, which has received “new and noteworthy” recognition three times, was the first benefits podcast published on iTunes and is designed for busy professionals who want to stay informed while continuing to keep up with the demands of their business. We offer an immersive audio experience that can be accessed anytime, anywhere, making it the perfect tool to help you stay ahead of the curve. 

Explore our collection of over 130 podcast episodes and discover how we can help you elevate your benefits.

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Previous Podcasts

Episode #054

Please Don’t Take A Seat

People are biologically meant to move, but our culture - including our workplaces - encourage us to sit and be still. Learn more about the fresh approach to achieving a healthier workforce

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Episode #055

Beam Delivers High-Tech Dental Hygiene

Alex Frommeyer's strategy for dental care is hitting home and bringing the tech. If you’re going to offer dental coverage, Frommeyer says, it makes sense to encourage dental hygiene.

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Episode #48

The Health Care Top 10

Scott and Anne Marie walk through the Health Care Executive Group’s annual Top 10 list. The list reflects the challenges, opportunities and issues facing health care executives. At the top of the list for 2018: leveraging data with clinical evidence, something MB knows well. Find out other trends to watch for in 2018.

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Episode #34

Risk and Self-Funding

Scott and Anne Marie take another look at self-funding, this time considering the risks. In the long run, self-funding will save most companies money. But you have to be prepared for a down year. Is stop-loss the answer? Scott and Anne Marie talk about how stop-loss can protect you from a future unknown risk.

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Episode #53

The Case for Onsite Clinics

If you thought onsite clinics are available only to large employers, prepare to think differently. Scott and Anne Marie reveal how employers of all sizes can realize lower costs and better outcomes with onsite clinics. And learn why investing in consistent, quality care is now an option for employers of any size.

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Episode #51

The Direct Primary Care Movement

In Direct Primary Care, patients pay a level monthly fee for access to their primary care physician as needed. Scott and Anne Marie welcome Dr. Amy Mechley of Integrative Family Care of Cincinnati, who explains how her Direct Primary Care practice works as an alternative to traditional insurance plans.

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Episode #50

A Primary Partnership

Primary care is garnering respect and generating results, thanks to a rise in health care consumerism and value-based reimbursement models. Here are the not-so-hidden benefits of a primary partnership.

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Episode #49

Raising the Bar for Law

In this episode of Side Affects, Jill Snitcher McQuain of the Columbus Bar Association talks with Scott McGohan about how the CBA’s mission. The CBA is dedicated to bringing lawyers together for the betterment of the legal profession while helping the community and clients who are seeking legal assistance.

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Episode #47

Navigating Health Care

Health care billing and coverage issues are complicated. When issues arise, you need someone with knowledge to advocate for you. Scott and Anne Marie welcome Kim Snyder, MB’s customer care manager, to talk about how her team of industry experts knows how to fight for our clients, saving them time, headaches, and money.

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Episode #46

The Opioid Crisis

Scott and Anne Marie welcome Jay Meyer to share his story of overcoming opioid addiction. Meyer, a former pharmacist, tells a chilling story of how easy it is to slip into addiction, and how difficult it is to emerge. Now a personal development coach, Meyer shared his insights from his personal journey.

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Episode #45

The Health Care Executive Order

In October 2017, President Trump signed the Health Care Executive Order that would eliminate the requirement for essential benefits coverage, among other things. Scott and Anne Marie welcome Grant Reed, MB’s Director of Financial and Analytical Services, to examine what this means for employers.

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Episode #44

Who’s Really on Drugs?

A month before the November 2017 election, Ohioans were still unclear on Issue 2, the Ohio Drug Price Relief Act. On the surface, it sounds like a good thing for Ohio consumers. Scott and Anne Marie are joined by MB colleagues Michael Orr and Adam Griffith to examine Issue 2 may, in fact, have the opposite effect.

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Episode #43

A United Way for Better Communities

This episode of Side Affects steps away from health care and into creating healthier communities. Scott McGohan is joined by members of the United Way and Coldwell Banker Heritage Realtors to discuss the challenges Americans are facing today, the biggest forces impacting our communities and much more.

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Episode #42

Driving Leadership

Scott McGohan welcomes Ryan Hawk of the Learning Leader Show to discuss the traits that drive others to become better leaders. As the owner of Leadership Podcast, Ryan has spoken to over 200 business leaders and influencers. He shares the qualities, skills, and secrets utilized by the most successful leaders today.

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Episode #41

Investing in Leadership

Business leaders often find themselves unable to turn to a colleague for advice or feedback. Fortunately, Aileron is here. Scott is joined by Joni Fedders, President at Aileron, to discuss how Aileron is creating a space where entrepreneurs can express their honest concerns and get valuable feedback.

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Episode #40

The Ohio Drug Price Relief Act

Scott and Anne Marie welcome back Antonio Ciaccia of the Ohio Pharmacy Association to dissect Issue 2, the Ohio Drug Price Relief Act that was subsequently defeated in Ohio in November 2017. Learn why pharmacists believed the issue, which purported to lower drug prices, would have unintended consequences for consumers.

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Episode #39

Giving Back

If you think your organization can’t afford to give back, think again. Scott and Anne Marie show how resources spent on charitable pursuits is good for employers, employees … and it’s good for business. When more people are selective about who they work for or do business with, a giving culture can give you the edge.

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Episode #38

Value-Based Health Care

Value-based health care is an emerging reimbursement model that doesn’t penalize doctors for making their patients healthy. In other words, doctors are paid for positive outcomes, rather than the traditional fee-for-service model. Scott and Anne Marie talk about how – and why – Value-Based Health Care works.

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Episode #36

The Problem with PBMs

Scott and Anne Marie welcome guest Antonio Ciaccia of the Ohio Pharmacists Association to talk about high prescription drug prices. Ciaccia says a “dysfunctional system” allows a lack of transparency, and that makes it possible for middlemen within the pharmacy supply chain to negotiate high prices in secrecy.

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Episode #35

Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation

At MB, we focus a lot on health management from the employer’s point of view. In this episode of Side Affects, special guest Samantha Redden talks with Scott about her experience with diabetes and her role at JDRF, including some of the promising management devices that are now in the clinical trial stage.

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Episode #33

The GOP Health Care Proposal

The Republicans’ first attempt to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act didn’t get enough votes to pass, but it gave a glimpse into some of their intentions. In this episode from March 2017, ERISA Attorney Paul Routh joins Scott and Anne Marie about the proposal, and how it sets the stage for future debate.

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Episode #32

Is a Captive Right for you?

Self-funding can save money, but until recently only large employers could handle the added risk. Today, there’s an option for businesses with 50 to 300 employees that combines the savings of self-funding with the protection of full funding. MB President Mike Suttman joins Scott to talk about captive arrangements.

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Episode #31

ActionMasters Performance Coaching

Scott and Anne Marie welcome Betsy Westhafer, a performance coach and founder of ActionMasters Network. She finds one trait stands out among successful leaders: They don’t want to be the smartest person in the room. They hire for outcomes and qualities, not for a skill-set on a resume. Find out how this approach works.

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Episode #30

Improve with Improv!

Justin Howard, founder of Black Box Improv, talks with Scott and Anne Marie about training your brain to listen. Too often, he says, we’re more concerned about what we’re going to say that we don’t really hear what others are saying.

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Episode #29

Soft Skills Beat Hard Sell

Technical skills might open doors but soft skills will maintain relationships. Scott and Anne Marie talk about the value of soft skills — listening, responding and recognizing nonverbal queues. Poor soft skills drive away clients, while good skills pull them in. And soft skills, like technical skills, can be taught.

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