Side Affects Podcast

Provoking People to Think Differently

At McGohan Brabender, we know the importance of staying on top of the latest industry trends and keeping your workforce informed. That’s why we created our podcast, Side Affects, to help take the complexity out of healthcare.  

Whether you are new to insurance or a seasoned executive, our podcast provides expert advice and innovative ideas about leadership, legislation, culture, compliance, and other topics. When you tune in to Side Affects, you’ll access exclusive insights from industry experts who share their knowledge and experiences. Our hosts, along with our guests, provide practical advice and proven strategies to help you improve your services in a crowded market. 

Our podcast, which has received “new and noteworthy” recognition three times, was the first benefits podcast published on iTunes and is designed for busy professionals who want to stay informed while continuing to keep up with the demands of their business. We offer an immersive audio experience that can be accessed anytime, anywhere, making it the perfect tool to help you stay ahead of the curve. 

Explore our collection of over 130 podcast episodes and discover how we can help you elevate your benefits.

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Previous Podcasts

Episode #083

Which Companies Figured “It Out” Following the Last Recession

MB CEO, Scott hosts Ed Eppley from The Eppley Group as they reflect on the recession of 08-09 & how COVID-19 imitates it in emotion but is caused by different circumstances. Scott and Ed discuss a 2010 Harvard Business Review article & give advice to business owners on how to overcome fear during these trying times.

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Episode #082

Telemedicine: Not Just for Pandemics Anymore

Hooray Health CEO, Shane Foss joins Kenzie & Scott as they discuss how COVID-19 is changing the health care process. Telemedicine has been around, but like this pandemic, digital health usage has increased because of the convenience, and of course, the need. Tune in to hear Shane’s ideas for the future of tele-health!

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Episode #081

An Organization’s Working from Home Survival Guide

The COVID-19 outbreak is forcing businesses to adapt while employees work from home and managers lead remotely. Workplace and multi-generational expert, Lindsey Pollack joins Kenzie Fell and Scott McGohan, to share some key ingredients that can help your workforce adjust in this time of crisis and plan for the future.

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Episode #080

Strategize Your Wellness Program with Incentives

From free gym memberships to premium differentials, the options are endless when it comes to incentive strategies. MB Population Health Manager, Tiffany Kuck is back with Kenzie and Dave to discuss the difference between outcomes based programs and participatory programs. Learn how it all starts with education first!

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Episode #079

One Drop of Blood Could Save Your Life!

Producer Kenzie Fell welcomes a special guest host as they chat with Population Health Manager, Tiffany Kuck. Tiffany specializes in health and wellness and shares the importance of providing biometric screenings. One simple finger stick can change peoples' lives for the better and it all starts with education. Listen!

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Episode #078

Culture that Drives Loyalty Around the World

Ken Wigton of Michelman, Inc. globally headquartered in Cincinnati, OH, joins CEO Scott McGohan and Side Affects producer Kenzie Fell to discuss how Michelman is able share the Midwest culture with seven locations in the US, Europe, and Asia. Learn why Ken believes it all starts with consistency in the hiring process.

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Episode #077

The Best Career You’ve Never Considered

Bob Higgins, college professor and educator from The University of Cincinnati joins Kenzie and Scott to talk about the Center for Insurance and Risk Management. Bob shares how this specialization is becoming more and more appealing and how he is increasing awareness about job opportunities. Tune in to learn more!

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Episode #076

Being Present With Absence Management

Join Kenzie and Anne Marie as they chat with absence management expert, Kristin Hostetter from Lincoln Financial Group. Kristin has seen the entire process take some creative turns. Pawternity anyone? Listen and learn if you should consider some adjustments to your family leave to keep your staff happy and loyal.

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Episode #075

Me, Me, ME! It’s Not Just the Millennials

“I deserve this!” But… do you really? MB friend, Kristi Dinsmore joins Kenzie and Scott to discuss a very popular and concerning subject regarding the entitlement some individuals use to gain position, power and reward. Entitlement is not just about millennials - it's impacting our entire society in general. Tune in!

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Episode #074

Regenexx | Joint Restoration

Scott McGohan and MB President, Mike Suttman are joined by Regenexx CEO, Jason Hellickson for a special Side Affects episode as they discuss an increasingly popular alternative versus orthopedic surgeries. Regenexx uses human healing cells to restore compromised joints. It's time to consider a new way of treatment.

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Episode #073

A Front Door for Health Care – Quantum Health

Side Affects Producer, Kenzie Fell and MB CEO, Scott McGohan are joined by Steven Knight from Quantum Health -- a consumer navigation company that thrives on creating a clear pathway to a genuine and trustworthy experience. Listen as they discuss the importance of being a "front door" for health care consumers.

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Episode #72

The Power of Human Capital

MB Recruiting Coordinator Lauren Hemm joins Kenzie and Anne Marie to share her tips for candidates, how she searches for potential employees and the kind of questions you should ask to get the full story. When looking for a position, you may have the skills, but do you fit in with the company’s culture?

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Episode #71

Anatomy of a Renewal: Let’s Strategize

Your employee benefits renewal isn't a one-time transaction. It's a strategy and discussion that should be happening throughout the entire year with your benefits team. MB's Director of Account Management, Todd Clarke joins Kenzie Fell and Scott McGohan to explain the anatomy of a renewal from start to finish.

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Episode #70

Fast-Tracking Millennials for Leadership

With today’s thriving economy, many of your managers have been thrown into leadership roles so fast, that reluctantly, there is no time for proper training. The newer employees are eager to succeed, but are they equipped to manage? Listen in and learn how to grow with millennials and develop them into leaders.

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Episode #69

Data Analytics: CSI

Kenzie & Anne Marie welcome MB’s Manager of Strategic Data Analytics, Kelly McCall. She explains the advantages of our data analytical software & how we can assist our clients to make future decisions by looking at the medical claims of the past. Tune in to hear how Kelly can help solve the mystery of high claim risk.

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Episode #068

Hats off to that Entrepreneurial Spirit

Side Affects welcome University of Dayton senior, Danielle Ruffolo to the show. Dani turned a class project into a thriving business thanks to some hard work & a strong support system. From the classroom to Shark Tank, tune in to hear how this entrepreneur grew her business by simply sewing a sock into a baseball hat.

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Episode #67

How savvy is your social media strategy?

Scott discusses today’s social media concepts with Multimedia Specialist, Kenzie Fell. Kenzie has only been at MB for 8 months but has put MB on the social network ‘world tour.’ Learn how sharing your company’s culture & brand places you in a different light that attracts new clients and recruits skilled talent.

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Episode #66


SimplePay is an industry-changing approach to health care that delivers the highest quality care at the lowest cost. No deductibles, no plan design, no bills from providers … no surprises. Learn why we believe SimplePay is going to transform health care, and find out today what everyone will be talking about tomorrow.

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Episode #65

From Vision to Reality

Susan Goebel hears a lot of bright ideas. In fact, she talks to three inventors every day! Susan is a master at taking concepts from the drawing board to the marketplace. Her focus these days is bioscience business development. The problem, she says, isn't a lack of ideas; it's a lack of understanding of the process.

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Episode #064

Small steps, big success

Joe Motz is CEO of the Motz Group, a national athletic field specialist based in Cincinnati. Motz grew a successful business from scratch, by himself, but it took a toll on his health. His dreams were nearly sidelined by a health wake-up call, but he was determined to make some lifestyle changes and reverse his risk.

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Episode #63

What is spread pricing and why should you care?

Scott and Anne Marie welcome back Eric Pachman, a consultant and drug pricing analyst with 46Brooklyn. 46Brooklyn is committed to bringing transparency to your prescription transactions, and today Eric talks about spread: the gap between the amount the pharmacy receives for the drug vs. what the payer paid.

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Episode #62

The Shifting Focus Of Health Care

Side Affects listeners were among the first to hear about new approaches to paying for health care, including the cost/quality relationship, pricing transparency and value-based contracting. Scott McGohan and Anne Marie Singleton look at how these new conversations are changing the mindset of employers.

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Episode #61


We all know that prescription drug prices are costing us a lot of money. One Ohio company is doing something about it. 46Brooklyn was created to obtain, analyze and release data on pharmaceutical pricing. Listen as these two men explain how they are using data to make drug pricing transparent.

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Episode #059

Epiphany Rx

Brenda Motheral is making a difference in health care. With an impressive 25+ years in the industry, Brenda is working to make the pharmaceutical world transparent. She explains how her company – Epiphany Rx – stands out against other PBMs.

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Episode #58

ACAP and the Future of Health Care

Since 2007, ACAP Health set out to change the way employers approach wellness. The outcomes-based strategy was born, and it has exceeded expectations as a proven way to reduce costs and improve health. It’s a simplified solution that addresses the basic equation: Price x Use = Cost.

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