Side Affects Podcast

Provoking People to Think Differently

At McGohan Brabender, we know the importance of staying on top of the latest industry trends and keeping your workforce informed. That’s why we created our podcast, Side Affects, to help take the complexity out of healthcare.  

Whether you are new to insurance or a seasoned executive, our podcast provides expert advice and innovative ideas about leadership, legislation, culture, compliance, and other topics. When you tune in to Side Affects, you’ll access exclusive insights from industry experts who share their knowledge and experiences. Our hosts, along with our guests, provide practical advice and proven strategies to help you improve your services in a crowded market. 

Our podcast, which has received “new and noteworthy” recognition three times, was the first benefits podcast published on iTunes and is designed for busy professionals who want to stay informed while continuing to keep up with the demands of their business. We offer an immersive audio experience that can be accessed anytime, anywhere, making it the perfect tool to help you stay ahead of the curve. 

Explore our collection of over 130 podcast episodes and discover how we can help you elevate your benefits.

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Previous Podcasts

Episode #099

Captives: “Putting the We in Front of Me”

Captives: loosely defined as an alternative method of sharing the claim risk across a larger pool. Producer, Kenzie and co-host, Anne Marie speak with Scott Insurance’s, Pim Jager, VP Lead of Captives about the history, dynamics & the future of modern captives for health care specifically brought on by the ACA in 2010.

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Episode #098

Don’t Live in Fear, Just Be Aware

COVID-19 threw us deeper into the digital world, and now the virtual space is an identity hacker's paradise, eager to steal your identity. Kim Redd, Benefits Specialist from LegalShield joins Kenzie & Anne Marie to explain how to keep an eye on the prize, which is you, and your personal information. Listen now!

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Episode #097

Direct Contracts: Modern Flair for Cost-Effective Health Care

VP of Employee Benefits Sales at M3, Ryan Barbieri digs deeper into direct contracting and shares how employers willing to tackle the non-traditional methods of health care could reap benefits beyond the ROI. Find out if your company has what it takes to put direct contracting into motion for a long-term solution.

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Episode #096

Everyone Has a Story

Julie Manuel, a psychotherapist from Kettering Health, joins Kenzie and Scott to discuss the subject of mental health and how delicate it is, especially for employers. Today, factoring in the pandemic, mental health has contributed to poor productivity & reliability. Julie shares the importance of an EAP plan. Tune in!

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Episode #095

Garner Health – Trusting Your Health Care Hero

Founder and CEO of Garner Health, Nick Reber explains that finding the right physician at the right time is the solution to excellent health care without blowing your budget. Nick joins Kenzie and Scott to share how this economic strategy depends on the data from the outcomes, not the process. Take a listen!

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Episode #094

The ‘Trusty’ PBM Advisor

Thatcher Sloan and Bill Lenskold share how Confidio, a PBM Consulting firm, enhances the relationship you have with your PBM. They hold the PBM accountable to the contract and manage a strategy going forward that fits your culture. Prescription costs are a hot mess and it's nice to have someone in your corner.

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Episode #093

2020: Don’t Put It in the Rearview Mirror

Our first episode of 2021 brings Todd Wilkowski from Frost, Brown, Todd, LLC to discuss with Kenzie and Scott how this past year, he has encouraged embracing the gift of time. Moving forward, we aren’t out of the COVID-19 woods yet - Todd shares how companies can grow from the lessons learned in 2020. Take a listen!

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Episode #092

The Decision is in the Data

A magic ball could make future health care decisions a bit easier, but math and science make your options realistic! Scott and Kenzie are joined by Springbuk's Mike Pattengale and Jen Jones to learn more about the data analytics platform that supports employers to make better health care decisions. Tune in now!

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Episode #091

The Out-of-Office Output Isn’t Adding Up

Kristi Dinsmore from Carter Fraser discusses how long companies and their employees can endure working outside of their department walls. Most people need to be around people, and if they aren’t, cracks begin to show in productivity. Listen and learn how to transition your workforce back into the office successfully.

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Episode #090

The Urgency of Adaptation | Open Enrollment Communication During COVID-19

HR manager, Mary Howbert from G&J Pepsi-Cola Bottlers joins Kenzie & Dave to discuss how to tackle the curve-balls of conducting a business's HR side, especially open enrollment, during this pandemic. Open Enrollment is an imperative time to engage all employees and it's time for businesses to get agile and creative.

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Episode #089

Break the Rules: Automate your Annual Benefit Communications

2020 has turned most of us upside down, so it may be the time to try something new for your benefits communications. For this Side Affects episode, producer, Kenzie Fell has pulled our Director of Strategy and Innovation, Dave Homan, from behind the scenes, upfront to discuss different options for open enrollment.

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Episode #088

Don’t Let COVID-19 Damage Your Relationship with Your Clients

Lance Tyson, owner, President, and CEO of The Tyson Group joins MB CEO, Scott McGohan for a conversation about COVID-19 and how it is affecting their approach to sales. Companies are adapting to this new normal very differently, and you must be prepared for anything. Take a listen!

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Episode #087

Benefit Technology: Rip and Replace? | Part 3 Of 3

What is the shelf life of technology? What you needed in 2010 may not be what you need now. Kenzie, Anne Marie, and Kelly from BTR highlight how important it is to build a relationship with your Benefit Technology vendor. Tune in to make sure technology is working for you and you are not working for the technology.

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Episode #086

HR Technology Implementation Doesn’t Have An Easy Button | Part 2 Of 3

You've vetted and chosen your HR Technology, now it's time to implement it! HR Technology Consultant, Kelly Zimmerman of BTR shares the best steps going forward for a successful transition of your HR Data. Being prepared and consistent is key during an implementation. Tune in to round two of our HR Tech series!

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Episode #085

The Building Blocks of HR Technology | Part 1 of 3

Kelly Zimmerman from Benefit Technology Resources explains the importance of HR Technology. No matter the size of your company, you will use some sort of technology to support your workforce. Right now, COVID-19 has spotlighted the evident gaps. Tune in to part one to build your foundation of HR Technology knowledge!

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Episode #084

Finding Control in the Chaos

Laura Putnam, CEO of Motion Infusion, joins Scott and Kenzie to explain how to continue to live our lives when it feels like our world is falling apart. Laura shares how important it is to know the facts, and also reminds us that we can't always be in control. However, we can control how we respond to this pandemic.

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Episode #083

Which Companies Figured “It Out” Following the Last Recession

MB CEO, Scott hosts Ed Eppley from The Eppley Group as they reflect on the recession of 08-09 & how COVID-19 imitates it in emotion but is caused by different circumstances. Scott and Ed discuss a 2010 Harvard Business Review article & give advice to business owners on how to overcome fear during these trying times.

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Episode #082

Telemedicine: Not Just for Pandemics Anymore

Hooray Health CEO, Shane Foss joins Kenzie & Scott as they discuss how COVID-19 is changing the health care process. Telemedicine has been around, but like this pandemic, digital health usage has increased because of the convenience, and of course, the need. Tune in to hear Shane’s ideas for the future of tele-health!

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Episode #081

An Organization’s Working from Home Survival Guide

The COVID-19 outbreak is forcing businesses to adapt while employees work from home and managers lead remotely. Workplace and multi-generational expert, Lindsey Pollack joins Kenzie Fell and Scott McGohan, to share some key ingredients that can help your workforce adjust in this time of crisis and plan for the future.

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Episode #080

Strategize Your Wellness Program with Incentives

From free gym memberships to premium differentials, the options are endless when it comes to incentive strategies. MB Population Health Manager, Tiffany Kuck is back with Kenzie and Dave to discuss the difference between outcomes based programs and participatory programs. Learn how it all starts with education first!

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Episode #079

One Drop of Blood Could Save Your Life!

Producer Kenzie Fell welcomes a special guest host as they chat with Population Health Manager, Tiffany Kuck. Tiffany specializes in health and wellness and shares the importance of providing biometric screenings. One simple finger stick can change peoples' lives for the better and it all starts with education. Listen!

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Episode #078

Culture that Drives Loyalty Around the World

Ken Wigton of Michelman, Inc. globally headquartered in Cincinnati, OH, joins CEO Scott McGohan and Side Affects producer Kenzie Fell to discuss how Michelman is able share the Midwest culture with seven locations in the US, Europe, and Asia. Learn why Ken believes it all starts with consistency in the hiring process.

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Episode #077

The Best Career You’ve Never Considered

Bob Higgins, college professor and educator from The University of Cincinnati joins Kenzie and Scott to talk about the Center for Insurance and Risk Management. Bob shares how this specialization is becoming more and more appealing and how he is increasing awareness about job opportunities. Tune in to learn more!

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Episode #076

Being Present With Absence Management

Join Kenzie and Anne Marie as they chat with absence management expert, Kristin Hostetter from Lincoln Financial Group. Kristin has seen the entire process take some creative turns. Pawternity anyone? Listen and learn if you should consider some adjustments to your family leave to keep your staff happy and loyal.

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Episode #075

Me, Me, ME! It’s Not Just the Millennials

“I deserve this!” But… do you really? MB friend, Kristi Dinsmore joins Kenzie and Scott to discuss a very popular and concerning subject regarding the entitlement some individuals use to gain position, power and reward. Entitlement is not just about millennials - it's impacting our entire society in general. Tune in!

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