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Side Affects Podcast
Provoking People to Think Differently
At McGohan Brabender, we know the importance of staying on top of the latest industry trends and keeping your workforce informed. That’s why we created our podcast, Side Affects, to help take the complexity out of healthcare.
Whether you are new to insurance or a seasoned executive, our podcast provides expert advice and innovative ideas about leadership, legislation, culture, compliance, and other topics. When you tune in to Side Affects, you’ll access exclusive insights from industry experts who share their knowledge and experiences. Our hosts, along with our guests, provide practical advice and proven strategies to help you improve your services in a crowded market.
Our podcast, which has received “new and noteworthy” recognition three times, was the first benefits podcast published on iTunes and is designed for busy professionals who want to stay informed while continuing to keep up with the demands of their business. We offer an immersive audio experience that can be accessed anytime, anywhere, making it the perfect tool to help you stay ahead of the curve.
Explore our collection of over 130 podcast episodes and discover how we can help you elevate your benefits.
Featured Episodes
Episode #133
From Patents to Prices: A Deep Dive into Drug Pricing | Part IV
Hosts, Kenzie & Dave continue the pharmacy series with MB's Vice President of Pharmacy Solutions, Dr. Jeff Eichholz. They tackle one of the most sought-after topics in pharmacy: pricing. Learn the origins of generic drugs and unravel the components comprising the cost of specialty drugs, touching on patents, research, drug ingredients and beyond.
Episode #132
PBMs and RFPs: The Devil is in the Details | Part III
MB Director of Pharmacy Solutions, Dr. Jeff Eichholz joins Kenzie and Dave to discuss all things Pharmacy Benefit Managers – or PBMs. Dr. Jeff explains how to choose a PBM or vendor and what’s involved in the RFP process. The devil is truly in the details and he shares some of the “gotchas” when you’re reviewing these contracts. Tune in!
Previous Podcasts
Episode #106
Defining a New “Work-Life Balance”… For Each Generation
Kenzie & Scott welcome Michael Denisoff, President and CEO of Employers Resource Association. Michael shares his observations of The Great Resignation and how to balance the multi-generational workforce. It’s time to ask, “as an employee of this company, what’s important to you?” Watch and listen to learn more!
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Ascend Innovations: Leveraging Technology to Do Good
Kenzie, Scott and our guests, Josh Gratsch and Dr. Bill Baez from Ascend Innovations share what Dayton, the Midwest city of Innovation, has going on with their health care network systems. Ascend has rallied three top hospital systems and are collaborating to re-build a trusted name by gathering shared data. Tune in!
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Evolution of the Patient Experience Through COVID
Internist, Dr. Peter Nelson and cardiologist, Dr. Harvey Hahn join Kenzie and Anne Marie to discuss the pros and cons of how we approach our physical well-being and the health care system. Many of these observations were present before the pandemic, but with COVID, issues have intensified. Listen to learn more!
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Airrosti: Reducing the Cost of Rapid Recovery, Remotely
Airrosti Chief Population Health Officer, Dr. Chris Cato and Vice President of Business Development, Kelly Burchett review the past five years with Kenzie and Anne Marie. Tune in to learn about their fascinating history, what makes them stand out and how they’ve entered the telemedicine world at the perfect time.
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ConsumerOptix: Becoming the ‘Amazon’ of Life Insurance
Join Producer, Kenzie and guest host, Dave Homan as they welcome James O’Hara, CEO of Dayton-based ConsumerOptix. Tune in to learn how they are working to be the ‘Amazon’ of Life Insurance as they get the employee benefits and insurance industry up to speed in the digital evolution with new communication software.
Listen NowEpisode #101
onefifteen: Activating the Data of the Opioid Epidemic
Kenzie and Scott welcome Marti Taylor, President and CEO of onefifteen, a not-for-profit organization that takes a fresh approach to treating opioid addiction. Logic pointed the onefifteen crew to base in Dayton, at the heart of the problem, with the intent to provide good care right here in our city. Take a listen!
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We’ve Come a Long Way, MB!
Happy 100th episode, Side Affects! Join in the celebration with producer Kenzie and her usual sidekicks, Scott, Anne Marie and Dave, as they reminisce about the creation, the knowledge shared, and the direction of Side Affects' future. Click and enjoy some highlights of our favorite and highly listened to episodes!
Listen NowEpisode #099
Captives: “Putting the We in Front of Me”
Captives: loosely defined as an alternative method of sharing the claim risk across a larger pool. Producer, Kenzie and co-host, Anne Marie speak with Scott Insurance’s, Pim Jager, VP Lead of Captives about the history, dynamics & the future of modern captives for health care specifically brought on by the ACA in 2010.
Listen NowEpisode #098
Don’t Live in Fear, Just Be Aware
COVID-19 threw us deeper into the digital world, and now the virtual space is an identity hacker's paradise, eager to steal your identity. Kim Redd, Benefits Specialist from LegalShield joins Kenzie & Anne Marie to explain how to keep an eye on the prize, which is you, and your personal information. Listen now!
Listen NowEpisode #097
Direct Contracts: Modern Flair for Cost-Effective Health Care
VP of Employee Benefits Sales at M3, Ryan Barbieri digs deeper into direct contracting and shares how employers willing to tackle the non-traditional methods of health care could reap benefits beyond the ROI. Find out if your company has what it takes to put direct contracting into motion for a long-term solution.
Listen NowEpisode #096
Everyone Has a Story
Julie Manuel, a psychotherapist from Kettering Health, joins Kenzie and Scott to discuss the subject of mental health and how delicate it is, especially for employers. Today, factoring in the pandemic, mental health has contributed to poor productivity & reliability. Julie shares the importance of an EAP plan. Tune in!
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Garner Health – Trusting Your Health Care Hero
Founder and CEO of Garner Health, Nick Reber explains that finding the right physician at the right time is the solution to excellent health care without blowing your budget. Nick joins Kenzie and Scott to share how this economic strategy depends on the data from the outcomes, not the process. Take a listen!
Listen NowEpisode #094
The ‘Trusty’ PBM Advisor
Thatcher Sloan and Bill Lenskold share how Confidio, a PBM Consulting firm, enhances the relationship you have with your PBM. They hold the PBM accountable to the contract and manage a strategy going forward that fits your culture. Prescription costs are a hot mess and it's nice to have someone in your corner.
Listen NowEpisode #093
2020: Don’t Put It in the Rearview Mirror
Our first episode of 2021 brings Todd Wilkowski from Frost, Brown, Todd, LLC to discuss with Kenzie and Scott how this past year, he has encouraged embracing the gift of time. Moving forward, we aren’t out of the COVID-19 woods yet - Todd shares how companies can grow from the lessons learned in 2020. Take a listen!
Listen NowEpisode #092
The Decision is in the Data
A magic ball could make future health care decisions a bit easier, but math and science make your options realistic! Scott and Kenzie are joined by Springbuk's Mike Pattengale and Jen Jones to learn more about the data analytics platform that supports employers to make better health care decisions. Tune in now!
Listen NowEpisode #091
The Out-of-Office Output Isn’t Adding Up
Kristi Dinsmore from Carter Fraser discusses how long companies and their employees can endure working outside of their department walls. Most people need to be around people, and if they aren’t, cracks begin to show in productivity. Listen and learn how to transition your workforce back into the office successfully.
Listen NowEpisode #090
The Urgency of Adaptation | Open Enrollment Communication During COVID-19
HR manager, Mary Howbert from G&J Pepsi-Cola Bottlers joins Kenzie & Dave to discuss how to tackle the curve-balls of conducting a business's HR side, especially open enrollment, during this pandemic. Open Enrollment is an imperative time to engage all employees and it's time for businesses to get agile and creative.
Listen NowEpisode #089
Break the Rules: Automate your Annual Benefit Communications
2020 has turned most of us upside down, so it may be the time to try something new for your benefits communications. For this Side Affects episode, producer, Kenzie Fell has pulled our Director of Strategy and Innovation, Dave Homan, from behind the scenes, upfront to discuss different options for open enrollment.
Listen NowEpisode #088
Don’t Let COVID-19 Damage Your Relationship with Your Clients
Lance Tyson, owner, President, and CEO of The Tyson Group joins MB CEO, Scott McGohan for a conversation about COVID-19 and how it is affecting their approach to sales. Companies are adapting to this new normal very differently, and you must be prepared for anything. Take a listen!
Listen NowEpisode #087
Benefit Technology: Rip and Replace? | Part 3 Of 3
What is the shelf life of technology? What you needed in 2010 may not be what you need now. Kenzie, Anne Marie, and Kelly from BTR highlight how important it is to build a relationship with your Benefit Technology vendor. Tune in to make sure technology is working for you and you are not working for the technology.
Listen NowEpisode #086
HR Technology Implementation Doesn’t Have An Easy Button | Part 2 Of 3
You've vetted and chosen your HR Technology, now it's time to implement it! HR Technology Consultant, Kelly Zimmerman of BTR shares the best steps going forward for a successful transition of your HR Data. Being prepared and consistent is key during an implementation. Tune in to round two of our HR Tech series!
Listen NowEpisode #085
The Building Blocks of HR Technology | Part 1 of 3
Kelly Zimmerman from Benefit Technology Resources explains the importance of HR Technology. No matter the size of your company, you will use some sort of technology to support your workforce. Right now, COVID-19 has spotlighted the evident gaps. Tune in to part one to build your foundation of HR Technology knowledge!
Listen NowEpisode #084
Finding Control in the Chaos
Laura Putnam, CEO of Motion Infusion, joins Scott and Kenzie to explain how to continue to live our lives when it feels like our world is falling apart. Laura shares how important it is to know the facts, and also reminds us that we can't always be in control. However, we can control how we respond to this pandemic.
Listen NowEpisode #083
Which Companies Figured “It Out” Following the Last Recession
MB CEO, Scott hosts Ed Eppley from The Eppley Group as they reflect on the recession of 08-09 & how COVID-19 imitates it in emotion but is caused by different circumstances. Scott and Ed discuss a 2010 Harvard Business Review article & give advice to business owners on how to overcome fear during these trying times.
Listen NowEpisode #082
Telemedicine: Not Just for Pandemics Anymore
Hooray Health CEO, Shane Foss joins Kenzie & Scott as they discuss how COVID-19 is changing the health care process. Telemedicine has been around, but like this pandemic, digital health usage has increased because of the convenience, and of course, the need. Tune in to hear Shane’s ideas for the future of tele-health!
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